Great summary and great idea to put all the info in one place! I see you already have some references to Mike Stone's, ViroLIEgy, but really everything on that site is gold re the no virus debate. However, what you are missing is Dr Harold Hillman's work (unless I have missed a reference somewhere) because he was really a forerunner in pointing out a lot of issues in accepted science. In particular, Dr Hillman pointed out the complete lack of control experiments in almost all biochemistry experiments and then he did an enormous amount of work on the electron microscope and the failures of cytology, specifically that most of the structures in cells apparent by electron microscopy are artifacts. See his story and references to his work here >https://www.big-lies.org/harold-hillman-biology/what-price-intellectual-honesty.htm. Otherwise thank you for a your great work.
“Viruses” cannot be shown to exist as defined, which in simple terms means a sub-microscopic protein-covered length of RNA or DNA that can infect a host, reproduce and subsequently be transmitted by the host’s own biological mechanisms to infect again.
It simply is not good enough to point to imagery of objects or sequences of RNA/DNA and declare “this is the virus” without showing, end to end, that it actually does everything they claim it can do.
The “isolation” process for viruses is completely different to that for other protein-sized substances, and involves contaminating the sample rather than purifying it; this in itself is utter madness, and a fine example of the backwards pseudoscientific thinking of virology.
This fact alone ought to be problematic enough, given that reliable techniques do exist to routinely isolate other proteins that closely resemble viruses in all but name.
The main reason why a radically different technique is used for viruses seems to be that pathogenicity experiments always fail otherwise.
In fact, viruses can only ever be shown to cause ‘pathogenic’ effects under the most contrived lab conditions imaginable, with the alleged natural transmission journey eliminated altogether, and usually by the virologist injecting the suspected pathogen (plus many other toxic substances) directly into the host’s tissues or onto a cell culture.
That’s the only way a virologist can experiment with a ‘virus’ and get the results he is looking for. Doing so in a scientific manner never works, because virology is pseudoscience (and really, anti-science).
Bypassing a host’s defenses by directly injecting toxic proteins and other substances will cause effects as consistently as the mixture and methodology can be produced. As virology gets better at manipulating these injected cocktails, the consistency of observations is used as further evidence that the alleged virus does all the same things in a natural setting too, without that crucial part ever being demonstrated.
So let’s take them out of their simulated world and hold their feet to the fire in reality, ask them to show pathogenicity in a natural setting, and contagion from sick to healthy hosts. Unless and until challenge experiments can be done scientifically, viruses remain a theoretical concept with a 100% failure rate in valid scientific experiments.
Fantastic post. This is exactly what I was looking for. I've heard about the 1918 flu trials and wanted to see some trials on common colds and other flues, but didn't know where to look. Thanks!
I can give you the results of my own trial as a teacher the past 11 years. I can be in a room everyday swarming with kids sneezing and coughing on me all day. 9 out of 10 times kids don't make me sick. When teachers start getting sick it is a little bit more of a concern, but there is still no solid transmission connection. Last year I sat at a table with a kid who was coughing and sneezing. He eventually sneezed right on my face and I felt the saliva hit me between the eyes. At the time, I had just begun accepting that germs don't really exist and are not transmissible so I was not too worried.
Great reference list. Thank you all for putting it together. Comments are great too. Here is my contribution. It is indisputable fact that starvation (including malnutrition), poisoning and trauma (mental and physical) can and do cause illness and premature death. Any investigation of "what made me sick" must eliminate these known and common causes before speculating on unseen and unproven factors. This is the essence of the scientific method and common reason. Controlled experiments of disease should investigate these known, proven and common causes first. The null hypothesis being that it was not a mysterious agent, but rather a known and common agent that cause the illness No one disputes that the mind alone can create all manner of strange expressions on the skin. That's a proven fact. It is known that emotional stress causes external manifestations like blushing, sweating, rashes, hives, etc... So anyone claiming measels, warts, poxes and herpes are from a virus has to prove that the mind was not a factor or indeed the cause before speculating on unseen and unproven germs. It could be the mind, malnutrition and poisoning all at the same time. Remember: Poisoning, Starvation and Trauma. That's all you need to know.
I loved this. Extremely eye-opening. Reminded me of Garett Kramer. I’m still stuck on one thing though.... herpes simplex. I don’t get cold sores on my lip anymore, and used to get them once a year (I’m hypothesizing that is because I’ve done several 30-day fasts and assume the autophagy killed the “virus” or removed it from my system). When I’d feel one surfacing, I would take the listed dose on an anti-viral medication (forget what it’s called but it’s standard prescription for cold sores. Zovirax? I don’t remember) and it would prevent the cold sore from surfacing into a large sore and keep it very small and only minorly noticeable. If a virus isn’t real, which may be true, then what is herpes simplex and how did the anti-viral medication work so successfully every time? When I was younger, I didn’t have that medication and the cold sores would become enormous. Herpes is very much contagious and can spread to others just from touch. This is hurting my brain! Can someone explain this?
Also, I noticed during my pregnancy that the only time I got a cold sore (it was 3rd trimester), my body suppressed it on its own without any use of medication. I would never use any kind of medication during pregnancy and apparently a pregnant woman’s immune system is weak (which I knew was probably bullshit and not true, and my body proved that it was in fact stronger during pregnancy). So my cold sore during pregnancy stayed soooo small and was gone within 2 days (very unusually short duration). After pregnancy I only got one more and it went away just as quickly without any prescription meds- all I used was an ointment containing emu oil, oregano oil, thyme oil, etc etc etc. just a dab. After lots or extended water fasts, my cold sores have never returned. It’s been nearly 3 years now.....
So what are cold sores if not viruses? Very confused and if anyone can shed some light I would be grateful to hear the discussion. Thanks.
I would like to congratulate you for your all your work. It is clear, precise and succinct. Once you know where to look, there is an abundance of information that conclusively demonstrates that virology is pseudoscience. Because there is so much information, it can overwhelm you. I was considering the monumental task of putting all those pieces together in a way that cuts to the chase. Fortunately, you beat me to it, so I am grateful for not only your work, but also saving me from having to compile all the relevant information. And you are right of course regarding "no virus", since once that concept is grasped, everything that follows can be disregarded and seen in reality for what it is.
As you have cited in the article above the study by Ben Killingley and stated that "Nobody got sick", I was wondering if you could explain this quote as on reading the paper, it does appear that a number of participants did exhibit what could be considered cold like symptoms.
From 1918-1919, the USPHS conducted experiments to better understand the infectious nature of the Spanish Flu. They made rather determined efforts to infect healthy volunteers with the disease. As you will see below, their efforts were a complete failure:
“We collected the material and mucous secretions of the mouth and nose and throat and bronchi from [sick patients] and transferred this to our volunteers.” These secretions were placed in the nostrils, throat, and eyes of the volunteers. Of the 100 volunteers, NONE became sick.
The experiment was repeated, this time using new volunteers and more stringent procedures. But the results were the same: “None of them took sick in any way.”
In another experiment, healthy volunteers were inoculated with blood from sick patients. None became sick.
In yet another experiment, mucous was collected from sick patients, filtered, and then injected directly into the volunteers. None became sick.
Finally, the researchers attempted to infect volunteers in a manner that was more consistent with how transmission would occur in the real world. New volunteers and sick patients were assembled:
The participants shook hands and talked face to face as close as possible for five minutes.
The sick patients then coughed in the face of the healthy volunteers several times while the healthy volunteers inhaled.
Each volunteer repeated the procedure with ten sick patients.
None became sick.
Despite these experiments, it is still firmly believed that the 1918 Spanish Flu was caused by a contagious virus. Ironically, this denial of reality is called “following the science.”
I made a huge list of medical papers of which most of them are considered to be proof of pathogenicity, contagion etc. - including links to access them and PDFs (~600Mb).
I also have the complete paper by Schmitz 1920, the one by Williams et al. (1921)... I went through your list until 1949 (Polio and NY Health State Department) then I became lazy... sorry for that.
Thank you for this great write up and I'm happy to see more people speaking out about No Contagion / transmission of disease, so no virus.
'The only real virus is the believe that viruses exist' is how I phrase it now, after speaking for 2.5 years about 'no virus'. As ideas are real ideas.
Please have a look at the letter I recently wrote to the Dutch senators, who voted for the Dutch pandemic laws anyways...
Oops! After a couple of comments I've made here, I would like to make up for my mistake of not congratulating you on the excellence of your comprehensive summary. The list of Frankenstein experiments are extremely powerful and support the rest of your findings as well as what I also hope I know.
At the age of five, I lied to a "doctor" about being ill, because I wanted to experience what it would be like to be hospitalized. I was indeed quarantined with another 26 "sick" children in a hospital for infectious diseases. I expected people dropping like flies, but no contagion took place and nobody got sick. I expected the doctors and the nurses to be the worst, but they remained healthy. At that point, I learned that there was something seriously wrong with "Medicine," and my belief was confirmed in the next 60 years on several occasions. No study was needed...
Still, a coherent paradigm of health and illness is overdue, and not much is happening about that. Here is my proposition:
Of course, virology and pathogenic viral transmission was refuted several times, but it's apparently never enough; people have been conditioned for new viruses, pandemics, and states of emergency.
If billions have been spent studying virology but they were actually studying exosomes & cellular messengers present during illness, then quite a lot has been learned about cellular messengers and exosomes.
Great summary and great idea to put all the info in one place! I see you already have some references to Mike Stone's, ViroLIEgy, but really everything on that site is gold re the no virus debate. However, what you are missing is Dr Harold Hillman's work (unless I have missed a reference somewhere) because he was really a forerunner in pointing out a lot of issues in accepted science. In particular, Dr Hillman pointed out the complete lack of control experiments in almost all biochemistry experiments and then he did an enormous amount of work on the electron microscope and the failures of cytology, specifically that most of the structures in cells apparent by electron microscopy are artifacts. See his story and references to his work here >https://www.big-lies.org/harold-hillman-biology/what-price-intellectual-honesty.htm. Otherwise thank you for a your great work.
Very nice summary, thank you.
“Viruses” cannot be shown to exist as defined, which in simple terms means a sub-microscopic protein-covered length of RNA or DNA that can infect a host, reproduce and subsequently be transmitted by the host’s own biological mechanisms to infect again.
It simply is not good enough to point to imagery of objects or sequences of RNA/DNA and declare “this is the virus” without showing, end to end, that it actually does everything they claim it can do.
The “isolation” process for viruses is completely different to that for other protein-sized substances, and involves contaminating the sample rather than purifying it; this in itself is utter madness, and a fine example of the backwards pseudoscientific thinking of virology.
This fact alone ought to be problematic enough, given that reliable techniques do exist to routinely isolate other proteins that closely resemble viruses in all but name.
The main reason why a radically different technique is used for viruses seems to be that pathogenicity experiments always fail otherwise.
In fact, viruses can only ever be shown to cause ‘pathogenic’ effects under the most contrived lab conditions imaginable, with the alleged natural transmission journey eliminated altogether, and usually by the virologist injecting the suspected pathogen (plus many other toxic substances) directly into the host’s tissues or onto a cell culture.
That’s the only way a virologist can experiment with a ‘virus’ and get the results he is looking for. Doing so in a scientific manner never works, because virology is pseudoscience (and really, anti-science).
Bypassing a host’s defenses by directly injecting toxic proteins and other substances will cause effects as consistently as the mixture and methodology can be produced. As virology gets better at manipulating these injected cocktails, the consistency of observations is used as further evidence that the alleged virus does all the same things in a natural setting too, without that crucial part ever being demonstrated.
So let’s take them out of their simulated world and hold their feet to the fire in reality, ask them to show pathogenicity in a natural setting, and contagion from sick to healthy hosts. Unless and until challenge experiments can be done scientifically, viruses remain a theoretical concept with a 100% failure rate in valid scientific experiments.
Consensus......Con (the) sense (out of) us.
Fantastic post. This is exactly what I was looking for. I've heard about the 1918 flu trials and wanted to see some trials on common colds and other flues, but didn't know where to look. Thanks!
I can give you the results of my own trial as a teacher the past 11 years. I can be in a room everyday swarming with kids sneezing and coughing on me all day. 9 out of 10 times kids don't make me sick. When teachers start getting sick it is a little bit more of a concern, but there is still no solid transmission connection. Last year I sat at a table with a kid who was coughing and sneezing. He eventually sneezed right on my face and I felt the saliva hit me between the eyes. At the time, I had just begun accepting that germs don't really exist and are not transmissible so I was not too worried.
I never got a sniffle.
Well done DPL!
Wow, links and references for everything!
Do you sleep?
Thanks 🔥
😢Funeral services for Germ Theory will be held at the Pasteur Museum at the Institut Pasteur, situated at 25 rue du Docteur Roux - 75015 Paris, France
Great reference list. Thank you all for putting it together. Comments are great too. Here is my contribution. It is indisputable fact that starvation (including malnutrition), poisoning and trauma (mental and physical) can and do cause illness and premature death. Any investigation of "what made me sick" must eliminate these known and common causes before speculating on unseen and unproven factors. This is the essence of the scientific method and common reason. Controlled experiments of disease should investigate these known, proven and common causes first. The null hypothesis being that it was not a mysterious agent, but rather a known and common agent that cause the illness No one disputes that the mind alone can create all manner of strange expressions on the skin. That's a proven fact. It is known that emotional stress causes external manifestations like blushing, sweating, rashes, hives, etc... So anyone claiming measels, warts, poxes and herpes are from a virus has to prove that the mind was not a factor or indeed the cause before speculating on unseen and unproven germs. It could be the mind, malnutrition and poisoning all at the same time. Remember: Poisoning, Starvation and Trauma. That's all you need to know.
I loved this. Extremely eye-opening. Reminded me of Garett Kramer. I’m still stuck on one thing though.... herpes simplex. I don’t get cold sores on my lip anymore, and used to get them once a year (I’m hypothesizing that is because I’ve done several 30-day fasts and assume the autophagy killed the “virus” or removed it from my system). When I’d feel one surfacing, I would take the listed dose on an anti-viral medication (forget what it’s called but it’s standard prescription for cold sores. Zovirax? I don’t remember) and it would prevent the cold sore from surfacing into a large sore and keep it very small and only minorly noticeable. If a virus isn’t real, which may be true, then what is herpes simplex and how did the anti-viral medication work so successfully every time? When I was younger, I didn’t have that medication and the cold sores would become enormous. Herpes is very much contagious and can spread to others just from touch. This is hurting my brain! Can someone explain this?
Also, I noticed during my pregnancy that the only time I got a cold sore (it was 3rd trimester), my body suppressed it on its own without any use of medication. I would never use any kind of medication during pregnancy and apparently a pregnant woman’s immune system is weak (which I knew was probably bullshit and not true, and my body proved that it was in fact stronger during pregnancy). So my cold sore during pregnancy stayed soooo small and was gone within 2 days (very unusually short duration). After pregnancy I only got one more and it went away just as quickly without any prescription meds- all I used was an ointment containing emu oil, oregano oil, thyme oil, etc etc etc. just a dab. After lots or extended water fasts, my cold sores have never returned. It’s been nearly 3 years now.....
So what are cold sores if not viruses? Very confused and if anyone can shed some light I would be grateful to hear the discussion. Thanks.
I would like to congratulate you for your all your work. It is clear, precise and succinct. Once you know where to look, there is an abundance of information that conclusively demonstrates that virology is pseudoscience. Because there is so much information, it can overwhelm you. I was considering the monumental task of putting all those pieces together in a way that cuts to the chase. Fortunately, you beat me to it, so I am grateful for not only your work, but also saving me from having to compile all the relevant information. And you are right of course regarding "no virus", since once that concept is grasped, everything that follows can be disregarded and seen in reality for what it is.
As you have cited in the article above the study by Ben Killingley and stated that "Nobody got sick", I was wondering if you could explain this quote as on reading the paper, it does appear that a number of participants did exhibit what could be considered cold like symptoms.
Here’s one to add to your list
Experiments on Navy Volunteers
From 1918-1919, the USPHS conducted experiments to better understand the infectious nature of the Spanish Flu. They made rather determined efforts to infect healthy volunteers with the disease. As you will see below, their efforts were a complete failure:
“We collected the material and mucous secretions of the mouth and nose and throat and bronchi from [sick patients] and transferred this to our volunteers.” These secretions were placed in the nostrils, throat, and eyes of the volunteers. Of the 100 volunteers, NONE became sick.
The experiment was repeated, this time using new volunteers and more stringent procedures. But the results were the same: “None of them took sick in any way.”
In another experiment, healthy volunteers were inoculated with blood from sick patients. None became sick.
In yet another experiment, mucous was collected from sick patients, filtered, and then injected directly into the volunteers. None became sick.
Finally, the researchers attempted to infect volunteers in a manner that was more consistent with how transmission would occur in the real world. New volunteers and sick patients were assembled:
The participants shook hands and talked face to face as close as possible for five minutes.
The sick patients then coughed in the face of the healthy volunteers several times while the healthy volunteers inhaled.
Each volunteer repeated the procedure with ten sick patients.
None became sick.
Despite these experiments, it is still firmly believed that the 1918 Spanish Flu was caused by a contagious virus. Ironically, this denial of reality is called “following the science.”
https://brezinskinutrition.com/spanish-flu-the-highly-contagious-disease-that-was-not-contagious/
One of the best articles I have ever seen on this very important subject. Thank you.
Well thought out and put together. I pray other common-sense scientists add to this summary.
Hey dpl,
I made a huge list of medical papers of which most of them are considered to be proof of pathogenicity, contagion etc. - including links to access them and PDFs (~600Mb).
I also have the complete paper by Schmitz 1920, the one by Williams et al. (1921)... I went through your list until 1949 (Polio and NY Health State Department) then I became lazy... sorry for that.
https://t.me/Medi_History
Thank you for this great write up and I'm happy to see more people speaking out about No Contagion / transmission of disease, so no virus.
'The only real virus is the believe that viruses exist' is how I phrase it now, after speaking for 2.5 years about 'no virus'. As ideas are real ideas.
Please have a look at the letter I recently wrote to the Dutch senators, who voted for the Dutch pandemic laws anyways...
https://telegra.ph/Youve-been-lied-to-by-experts-who-dont-know-any-better--the-hard-virus-truth-05-20
There are some nice additions like:
- "No one has claimed the €1,500,000 bid with evidence for the existence of a coronavirus: https://samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/"
- The effectiveness of ‘vaccines’ in 1 image.
- Louis Pasteur, the Father of immunology, admitted his fraud
- https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition
Dr. Sam Bailey is also author of the book Virus Mania and made many excellent video's.
I will add a link to this substack and some more to it soon. Already shared on my Telegram channel.
Oops! After a couple of comments I've made here, I would like to make up for my mistake of not congratulating you on the excellence of your comprehensive summary. The list of Frankenstein experiments are extremely powerful and support the rest of your findings as well as what I also hope I know.
At the age of five, I lied to a "doctor" about being ill, because I wanted to experience what it would be like to be hospitalized. I was indeed quarantined with another 26 "sick" children in a hospital for infectious diseases. I expected people dropping like flies, but no contagion took place and nobody got sick. I expected the doctors and the nurses to be the worst, but they remained healthy. At that point, I learned that there was something seriously wrong with "Medicine," and my belief was confirmed in the next 60 years on several occasions. No study was needed...
Still, a coherent paradigm of health and illness is overdue, and not much is happening about that. Here is my proposition:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-makes-people-sick-apart-from
Of course, virology and pathogenic viral transmission was refuted several times, but it's apparently never enough; people have been conditioned for new viruses, pandemics, and states of emergency.
If billions have been spent studying virology but they were actually studying exosomes & cellular messengers present during illness, then quite a lot has been learned about cellular messengers and exosomes.